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Old Nov 28, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30   #21
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Yea, I heard a bit of stir about it before NF was released (I think Sir Mad was the first I saw to mention it) and after I tried it, I found it worked well. Flail is a strength attributed skill, so it only lasts 5 seconds, but as long as you hit multiple targets, flail is easy to upkeep due to the large amount of adrenaline gained.
I think the 5 sec duration might be good, since you'd have to bring a cancel stance if it was longer.....Imagine, a pve disaster...the entire team fleeing from a possible wipe but one ranger left behind....

"flaaail....cant.....run...>_<"
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Old Nov 28, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09   #22
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I think the 5 sec duration might be good, since you'd have to bring a cancel stance if it was longer.....Imagine, a pve disaster...the entire team fleeing from a possible wipe but one ranger left behind....

"flaaail....cant.....run...>_<"
LoL, yea, I tend to keep Dodge or Whirling on my skill bar with most builds, so it works as a cancel stance for flail if it ever gets in the way even if that's not the primary purpose of having another stance on my bar.
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Old Nov 28, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31   #23
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I think the 5 sec duration might be good, since you'd have to bring a cancel stance if it was longer.....Imagine, a pve disaster...the entire team fleeing from a possible wipe but one ranger left behind....

"flaaail....cant.....run...>_<"
if i die i die...i won't run >.< except in fow and UW...


i would suck for the survivor title...
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #24
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The main paragon skill I like on my Ranger is Remedy signet.

It has 1/2 the cast time of antidote sig and 1/2 the recharge time.

1 sec cast, 4 sec recharge

Fight through those blind bots with it gentlemen. Get the blind off before surge recharges thatn distracting shot the next surge.

Slowly working it into my PvP builds
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21   #25
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LoL, yea, I tend to keep Dodge or Whirling on my skill bar with most builds, so it works as a cancel stance for flail if it ever gets in the way even if that's not the primary purpose of having another stance on my bar.
Natural Stride fits the spot of cancel stance really well, and it recharges quickly so it's possible to use it repeatedly during an engagement if the need should arise.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01   #26
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Actually, I've been (starting) goofing around with a P/R BeastMistress type of build.........
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04   #27
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Actually, I've been (starting) goofing around with a P/R BeastMistress type of build.........
That'll probably work just as well--use Anthem of Flame before using a pet attack.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07   #28
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I've actually seen a few R/P in PvP, and none in PvE so far. I just started a R/P variant on the Pack Hunter for PvE, and so far I like it. Me + Koss own everything.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28   #29
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Natural Stride fits the spot of cancel stance really well, and it recharges quickly so it's possible to use it repeatedly during an engagement if the need should arise.
As said in another thread, I really think you don't need a cancel stance with Flail. You would only need to cancel it, as a ranger, if your whole party is wipped out - or at least if things are going very bad. But generally it doesn't happen in 2 secs - you can see that coming. So if you see your team mates are low in health and you may have to run, just don't recast Flail - after all it lasts only 5 secs...
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #30
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^Very true.

I would still suggest it if you were using Frenzy (which I do unless I'm playing barrage).
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30   #31
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one thing i find hard when i tried to make me a R/P...

most paragon skills are 10+ energy costers... how do you guys compensate that? and most of the shouts chants don't have a duration sustainable to keep them up...

so... how?
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #32
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^ Really the only thing a R/P is going to use is Attack skills or adrenaline based skills from the paragon side. Attack skillls are reduced by expertise and adrenaline skills come quickly (assuming you are using an IAS). You'd need to shy away from the energy shouts/echos etc.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52   #33
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^ Really the only thing a R/P is going to use is Attack skills or adrenaline based skills from the paragon side. Attack skillls are reduced by expertise and adrenaline skills come quickly (assuming you are using an IAS). You'd need to shy away from the energy shouts/echos etc.
Paragon attack skills are also cheaper with expertise?? that is very nice to know

but by attack skills....you mean Spear Mastery related skills? if you mean that...it doesn't work for me anyway.... i like to use bow...
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23   #34
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I've actually seen a few R/P in PvP, and none in PvE so far
Then you must never have crossed paths with me...

Irugu the Bold is a PVE Pack Hunter.
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12   #35
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Then you must never have crossed paths with me...

Irugu the Bold is a PVE Pack Hunter.
That's nice. So how does it work out?
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #36
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this is the R/P skillset that i've been using lately

Barrage (E)
Savage Shot
Go for the eyes
Stand your ground
Aim for the weaknesses (sp?)
Troll Unugent
def stance
and rez

I don't remember what exact numbers I ran with but it had at least 6 command and 16 marks, and a good amount of expertise. I can't get on GW to check right nwo though. This build is really fun to play with, especially with 2 other R/P hero henchies with similar builds.
I have been using that build in tombs too, does a nice amount of damage with the shouts. But I dropped "Find their Weaknesses" since the energy req of 10 is abit too high unless you use a zealous bow.
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #37
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Here's a fun AB build which works very well - Spearchucka (with video)
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=430587

The only difference in the usage from the posted version is that now I use a minor expertise rune in the mask for 590 starting hp.
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #38
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That's nice. So how does it work out?
Fairly well, actually.
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Old Dec 01, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #39
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Just a quick update, the more I use this build, the more I love it. It takes quite a lot of concentration to use effectively, but then again most good builds do.

Just got her Ascended, didn't even change her skill bar for fighting her mirror image, just laid into it and killed it in under 10 seconds with over 1/2 health remaining.
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